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	<title>Comments on: Comcast Wants to Be the Net&#8217;s Judge, Jury and Executioner</title>
	<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/</link>
	<description>Tracking the battle over Network Neutrality</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: syken</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-100589</link>
		<dc:creator>syken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-100589</guid>
		<description>This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. I mean the point of being able to pay for the internet is your choice and you should be able to do what you want with the service you paid for. The whole idea behind the internet is for people to communicate with others, be able to share things with them, and i would say be able to download. Because if i can download stuff i will buy it. So all in all this is Basically they are just trying to control another part of our lives... Basicaly another thing added to my list of "What the government is doing wrong, how they are trying to control us, and  why there is still taxation without representation but yet no one seems to care."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. I mean the point of being able to pay for the internet is your choice and you should be able to do what you want with the service you paid for. The whole idea behind the internet is for people to communicate with others, be able to share things with them, and i would say be able to download. Because if i can download stuff i will buy it. So all in all this is Basically they are just trying to control another part of our lives&#8230; Basicaly another thing added to my list of &#8220;What the government is doing wrong, how they are trying to control us, and  why there is still taxation without representation but yet no one seems to care.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Aims To Be the Net’s Judge, Jury and Executioner &#124; Nightly.Net</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-99467</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Aims To Be the Net’s Judge, Jury and Executioner &#124; Nightly.Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-99467</guid>
		<description>[...] Net Neutrality proponent Save the Internet has reported that at the request of virtually no one, Comcast has announced their plan to create a &#8220;P2P Bill of Rights&#8221; that would apply to service providers and users alike.   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Net Neutrality proponent Save the Internet has reported that at the request of virtually no one, Comcast has announced their plan to create a &#8220;P2P Bill of Rights&#8221; that would apply to service providers and users alike.   [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast &#8220;Bill of Rights&#8221; sans User Input &#124; Computer Tips from a Techie</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97976</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast &#8220;Bill of Rights&#8221; sans User Input &#124; Computer Tips from a Techie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97976</guid>
		<description>[...] Comcast has just rolled out plans to draft a “bill of rights and responsibilities” for ISPs and Internet users. But the cable giant has forgotten one thing: to invite Internet users, policymakers and advocates to the table. So is that what being comcastic means?  Tags: comcast, user rights [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Comcast has just rolled out plans to draft a “bill of rights and responsibilities” for ISPs and Internet users. But the cable giant has forgotten one thing: to invite Internet users, policymakers and advocates to the table. So is that what being comcastic means?  Tags: comcast, user rights [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Wants to Be the Net’s Judge, Jury and Executioner &#124; Universe_JDJ's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97930</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Wants to Be the Net’s Judge, Jury and Executioner &#124; Universe_JDJ's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97930</guid>
		<description>[...] read more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] read more | digg story [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: CUBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet users, advocates left out of Comcast &#8220;bill of rights&#8221; buzz</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97879</link>
		<dc:creator>CUBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet users, advocates left out of Comcast &#8220;bill of rights&#8221; buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97879</guid>
		<description>[...] Under a federal inquiry, Comcast proposes a &#8220;bill of rights&#8221; for Internet users, but apparently Internet users and advocates aren&#8217;t invited to the table.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Under a federal inquiry, Comcast proposes a &#8220;bill of rights&#8221; for Internet users, but apparently Internet users and advocates aren&#8217;t invited to the table.  [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: barry payne-economist</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97731</link>
		<dc:creator>barry payne-economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/04/15/comcast-wants-to-play-net-legislator/#comment-97731</guid>
		<description>THIS CONTRACT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE, DEPENDING ON THE STATUS OF NET NEUTRALITY

When contract language is written for clients like Comcast, especially in this particular move, it acts to minimize the likelihood of enforced net neutrality.  A standard comment from the inner circle could be, "If we don't do something now, they're going to do it for us - which version are you willing to live with?".  Such decisions have spawned millions for the public relations industry to develop messages designed to undermine both competition or regulation in its absence.

If bandwidth were available in the retail market as a commodity subject to effective competition, it wouldn't make much difference what contract language Comcast used, because its discriminatory practices would have driven Comcast out of business long ago.

For example, imagine if bandwidth could be bought and sold like computer hardware on the internet, in a national market with lots of sellers, plenty of options and independent reviews and other sources to inform real choices and avoid scams and other problems.  Play games with customers like Comcast does and a computer hardware company would be out of business in short order.

Comcast filed in its April 9th comment before the FCC in Docket 07-52, a press release by Pando Networks which collaborates with among others, Verizon, to "improve" P2P use on broadband networks.  Comcast states that the press release "provides further proof that  policymakers have been right to rely on marketplace forces, rather than government regulation, to govern the evolution of Internet services."

Wrong.  Deregulated monopolies have the same incentive to reduce cost at least as much as companies subject to competition and more when it results in degradation of service quality.  The difference is they don't pass on the savings to customers, keeping it for themselves instead.  And in this case, the economic damage incurred from undermining competition among producers and consumers of content, along with internet commerce like computer hardware, is several magnitudes above whatever monopoly profits are gained.

Pando Networks is a clear sign, like the content firm of hulu.com against net neutrality, that the healthy division between a near pure monopoly or duopoly of broadband bandwidth and the vibrant, competitive content which flows over these networks is breaking down.  Maintaining sharp separations between these two with net neutrality has no negative impact whatsover on the incentives and technical ability of network providers to "improve" P2P flows and reduce cost in their networks, and in fact encourages it.</description>
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<p>When contract language is written for clients like Comcast, especially in this particular move, it acts to minimize the likelihood of enforced net neutrality.  A standard comment from the inner circle could be, &#8220;If we don&#8217;t do something now, they&#8217;re going to do it for us - which version are you willing to live with?&#8221;.  Such decisions have spawned millions for the public relations industry to develop messages designed to undermine both competition or regulation in its absence.</p>
<p>If bandwidth were available in the retail market as a commodity subject to effective competition, it wouldn&#8217;t make much difference what contract language Comcast used, because its discriminatory practices would have driven Comcast out of business long ago.</p>
<p>For example, imagine if bandwidth could be bought and sold like computer hardware on the internet, in a national market with lots of sellers, plenty of options and independent reviews and other sources to inform real choices and avoid scams and other problems.  Play games with customers like Comcast does and a computer hardware company would be out of business in short order.</p>
<p>Comcast filed in its April 9th comment before the FCC in Docket 07-52, a press release by Pando Networks which collaborates with among others, Verizon, to &#8220;improve&#8221; P2P use on broadband networks.  Comcast states that the press release &#8220;provides further proof that  policymakers have been right to rely on marketplace forces, rather than government regulation, to govern the evolution of Internet services.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong.  Deregulated monopolies have the same incentive to reduce cost at least as much as companies subject to competition and more when it results in degradation of service quality.  The difference is they don&#8217;t pass on the savings to customers, keeping it for themselves instead.  And in this case, the economic damage incurred from undermining competition among producers and consumers of content, along with internet commerce like computer hardware, is several magnitudes above whatever monopoly profits are gained.</p>
<p>Pando Networks is a clear sign, like the content firm of hulu.com against net neutrality, that the healthy division between a near pure monopoly or duopoly of broadband bandwidth and the vibrant, competitive content which flows over these networks is breaking down.  Maintaining sharp separations between these two with net neutrality has no negative impact whatsover on the incentives and technical ability of network providers to &#8220;improve&#8221; P2P flows and reduce cost in their networks, and in fact encourages it.</p>
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