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	<title>Comments on: More Hot Air about &#8216;Net Competition&#8217;</title>
	<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/</link>
	<description>Tracking the battle over Network Neutrality</description>
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		<title>By: SpeakingIP &#187; Net Neutrality: The 900 Pound Red Herring</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>SpeakingIP &#187; Net Neutrality: The 900 Pound Red Herring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maybe Net Neutrality was somebody’s idea of a call to arms regarding our unfortunate telecom monopoly? If it was, it won’t work. The subject is too confusing. The average Internet user isn’t going to take the time to “get it.” They just want to shop on eBay, check the news and send some email. It’s up to network professionals, pundits and hardcore users to craft a different, easy to understand message. People need to hear a soundbite. We definitely need a better buzzword than “Net Neutrality.” Any ideas?! This subject needs some serious PR. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Maybe Net Neutrality was somebody’s idea of a call to arms regarding our unfortunate telecom monopoly? If it was, it won’t work. The subject is too confusing. The average Internet user isn’t going to take the time to “get it.” They just want to shop on eBay, check the news and send some email. It’s up to network professionals, pundits and hardcore users to craft a different, easy to understand message. People need to hear a soundbite. We definitely need a better buzzword than “Net Neutrality.” Any ideas?! This subject needs some serious PR. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: johnw</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>johnw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-937</guid>
		<description>To Alex, that is a well-written "blog", but I don't care for warmed-over libertarianism, tho how could one not appreciate old Ayn? Like (the incomparable) Freud, her ideas don't translate well to curing the ills of the world.

The number one business in the world is, are you sitting down, Alex, is real estate. The Net Neutrality issue arises because of the complete absence of broadband competition, which is caused by the original ATT monopoly, of controlling the "last mile". That monopoly was handed over, in the north East, to what is now Verizon. Cable Vision came in early and wired the towns and cities and suburbs for cable TV. And that's it, decades later, two companies represent almost all of the competition in much of the NE.

At the basis of the Net Neutraility arguement is the "last mile", read; real estate, and that is why the problem is almost intractable. There will never, IMO, be adequate competition unless alternate means of "connecting" are established on a mass scale. It seems that power companies--who arguably control the "last mile" even more than any telecom provider, are the only "hope".

You are dead wrong, Alex, when you define the "internet", by its history, or your libertarian vision of its future,  vision which has that Howard Roarke ring of ponderous self-aggrandizement. The internet is evolvable, and needn't conform to such petty conceptions of it. It is, let us hope, bigger than all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Alex, that is a well-written &#8220;blog&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t care for warmed-over libertarianism, tho how could one not appreciate old Ayn? Like (the incomparable) Freud, her ideas don&#8217;t translate well to curing the ills of the world.</p>
<p>The number one business in the world is, are you sitting down, Alex, is real estate. The Net Neutrality issue arises because of the complete absence of broadband competition, which is caused by the original ATT monopoly, of controlling the &#8220;last mile&#8221;. That monopoly was handed over, in the north East, to what is now Verizon. Cable Vision came in early and wired the towns and cities and suburbs for cable TV. And that&#8217;s it, decades later, two companies represent almost all of the competition in much of the NE.</p>
<p>At the basis of the Net Neutraility arguement is the &#8220;last mile&#8221;, read; real estate, and that is why the problem is almost intractable. There will never, IMO, be adequate competition unless alternate means of &#8220;connecting&#8221; are established on a mass scale. It seems that power companies&#8211;who arguably control the &#8220;last mile&#8221; even more than any telecom provider, are the only &#8220;hope&#8221;.</p>
<p>You are dead wrong, Alex, when you define the &#8220;internet&#8221;, by its history, or your libertarian vision of its future,  vision which has that Howard Roarke ring of ponderous self-aggrandizement. The internet is evolvable, and needn&#8217;t conform to such petty conceptions of it. It is, let us hope, bigger than all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Basement Tapes &#187; More Hot Air about ‘Net Competition’</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>Basement Tapes &#187; More Hot Air about ‘Net Competition’</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Basement Tapes &#187; More Hot Air about ‘Net Competition’</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>Basement Tapes &#187; More Hot Air about ‘Net Competition’</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-930</guid>
		<description>[...] Save the Internet » Blog Archive » More Hot Air about ‘Net Competition’ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: netjunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>netjunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-911</guid>
		<description>This was just forwarded to me.  Thoughts?  

http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr004=hatx1cmtb3.app7a&#38;page=NewsArticle&#38;id=12767&#38;news_iv_ctrl=1021


Net Neutrality vs. Internet Freedom
Thursday, July 13, 2006 
By: Alex Epstein 


America's leading Internet service providers (ISPs) have spent many years and billions upgrading their transcontinental networks, which constitute the backbone of the Internet. Now they are eager to profit by offering new, compelling services. One plan is to give certain websites high priority on their data, so as to guarantee "quality of service"--the speed, frequency, and reliability with which data is delivered. This would enable content providers to offer high-quality live TV and videoconferencing or advanced remote medical monitoring, without the delays and unreliability that plague the Internet today. Unfortunately, data prioritization is fiercely opposed by advocates of "Net Neutrality," who claim paradoxically that freedom and innovation demand that companies not be free to make this innovation.

Net neutrality is the idea that ISPs should not be able to favor some types of data over others; their networks must be "neutral" among all the data they carry. Net-neutrality supporters claim that if ISPs are free to give preferential treatment to certain websites' data, they might drastically slow down un-favored or less-wealthy websites, diminishing their ability to offer content and make innovations. A prominent net-neutrality coalition cautions: "If you are an aspiring entrepreneur, you may be impeded from providing the 'next big thing' on the Internet."

But such scenarios are nonsensical. For any of the nation's competing ISPs to offer customers slow, patchy, let alone nonexistent access to the websites they seek to visit, would be commercial suicide. As for innovation, websites are free to continue using standard, non-prioritized Internet service. The fact that this would be slower than premium service does not mean that it would be slow, just as UPS's decision to offer overnight delivery did not lead them to suddenly degrade their Ground shipping. Premium Internet services would enable, not stifle, innovation, by giving websites creative options they did not have before.

The specter of ISPs offering glacial access to certain websites is a smokescreen, designed to obscure the net-neutrality movement's goal: preventing anyone from having superior, unequal access to customers. In the minds of net-neutrality advocates, the Internet is a collectively owned entity, to which all websites have an equal claim and are entitled "equal access." As the title of a leading net-neutrality group proclaims: "It's our Net."

But it isn't.

The Internet is not a collectivist commune; it is a free, voluntary, and private association of individuals and corporations harmoniously pursuing their individual goals. (While it began as a government-funded project, the Internet's ultra-advanced state today is the achievement of private network builders, hardware companies, content providers, and customers.) Because the Internet is based on voluntary association, no one can properly compel others for their ad space, bandwidth, publicity--or data prioritization. Those who create these values have the right to use and profit from them as they see fit. Google has no more right to demand that Verizon be "neutral" with its network than Verizon has a right to demand that Google be "neutral" with its coveted advertising space.

The only thing equal about the participants on the Internet is that all have equal freedom to deal with others voluntarily. This means they are equally free to compete for the bandwidth, dollars, and talents of others--but not entitled to an unearned, equal portion of them.

It is the freedom of participants on the Internet to offer and profit from whatever products, services, or content they choose that has made it such a phenomenal source of content and innovation. Net neutrality would deny ISPs that freedom. It would deny their right to engage in creative, innovative, and profitable activity with those networks--in the name of those who demand their bandwidth, but are unable or unwilling to earn it in a free market.

The widespread support for net neutrality among successful Internet companies--including Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, eBay, and Amazon--is short-sighted and contemptible. These companies, which have benefited greatly from the unimpeded freedom of the Internet, are now trying to deny the same freedom to innovative ISPs and ambitious competitors under the egalitarian banner of "equal access." This is an invitation for any clever moocher to demand "equal access" to their hard-earned resources; indeed, Google is already being sued because its proprietary search engine allegedly gives "unfair" rankings to certain companies. 

The Internet is one of the great bastions of freedom and innovation in our civilization. Let us keep it that way by rejecting "net neutrality."

Alex Epstein is a junior fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute (www.AynRand.org) in Irvine, CA. The Institute promotes Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand--author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead. Contact the writer at media@aynrand.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was just forwarded to me.  Thoughts?  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr004=hatx1cmtb3.app7a&amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;id=12767&amp;news_iv_ctrl=1021" rel="nofollow">http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr004=hatx1cmtb3.app7a&amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;id=12767&amp;news_iv_ctrl=1021</a></p>
<p>Net Neutrality vs. Internet Freedom<br />
Thursday, July 13, 2006<br />
By: Alex Epstein </p>
<p>America&#8217;s leading Internet service providers (ISPs) have spent many years and billions upgrading their transcontinental networks, which constitute the backbone of the Internet. Now they are eager to profit by offering new, compelling services. One plan is to give certain websites high priority on their data, so as to guarantee &#8220;quality of service&#8221;&#8211;the speed, frequency, and reliability with which data is delivered. This would enable content providers to offer high-quality live TV and videoconferencing or advanced remote medical monitoring, without the delays and unreliability that plague the Internet today. Unfortunately, data prioritization is fiercely opposed by advocates of &#8220;Net Neutrality,&#8221; who claim paradoxically that freedom and innovation demand that companies not be free to make this innovation.</p>
<p>Net neutrality is the idea that ISPs should not be able to favor some types of data over others; their networks must be &#8220;neutral&#8221; among all the data they carry. Net-neutrality supporters claim that if ISPs are free to give preferential treatment to certain websites&#8217; data, they might drastically slow down un-favored or less-wealthy websites, diminishing their ability to offer content and make innovations. A prominent net-neutrality coalition cautions: &#8220;If you are an aspiring entrepreneur, you may be impeded from providing the &#8216;next big thing&#8217; on the Internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>But such scenarios are nonsensical. For any of the nation&#8217;s competing ISPs to offer customers slow, patchy, let alone nonexistent access to the websites they seek to visit, would be commercial suicide. As for innovation, websites are free to continue using standard, non-prioritized Internet service. The fact that this would be slower than premium service does not mean that it would be slow, just as UPS&#8217;s decision to offer overnight delivery did not lead them to suddenly degrade their Ground shipping. Premium Internet services would enable, not stifle, innovation, by giving websites creative options they did not have before.</p>
<p>The specter of ISPs offering glacial access to certain websites is a smokescreen, designed to obscure the net-neutrality movement&#8217;s goal: preventing anyone from having superior, unequal access to customers. In the minds of net-neutrality advocates, the Internet is a collectively owned entity, to which all websites have an equal claim and are entitled &#8220;equal access.&#8221; As the title of a leading net-neutrality group proclaims: &#8220;It&#8217;s our Net.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The Internet is not a collectivist commune; it is a free, voluntary, and private association of individuals and corporations harmoniously pursuing their individual goals. (While it began as a government-funded project, the Internet&#8217;s ultra-advanced state today is the achievement of private network builders, hardware companies, content providers, and customers.) Because the Internet is based on voluntary association, no one can properly compel others for their ad space, bandwidth, publicity&#8211;or data prioritization. Those who create these values have the right to use and profit from them as they see fit. Google has no more right to demand that Verizon be &#8220;neutral&#8221; with its network than Verizon has a right to demand that Google be &#8220;neutral&#8221; with its coveted advertising space.</p>
<p>The only thing equal about the participants on the Internet is that all have equal freedom to deal with others voluntarily. This means they are equally free to compete for the bandwidth, dollars, and talents of others&#8211;but not entitled to an unearned, equal portion of them.</p>
<p>It is the freedom of participants on the Internet to offer and profit from whatever products, services, or content they choose that has made it such a phenomenal source of content and innovation. Net neutrality would deny ISPs that freedom. It would deny their right to engage in creative, innovative, and profitable activity with those networks&#8211;in the name of those who demand their bandwidth, but are unable or unwilling to earn it in a free market.</p>
<p>The widespread support for net neutrality among successful Internet companies&#8211;including Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, eBay, and Amazon&#8211;is short-sighted and contemptible. These companies, which have benefited greatly from the unimpeded freedom of the Internet, are now trying to deny the same freedom to innovative ISPs and ambitious competitors under the egalitarian banner of &#8220;equal access.&#8221; This is an invitation for any clever moocher to demand &#8220;equal access&#8221; to their hard-earned resources; indeed, Google is already being sued because its proprietary search engine allegedly gives &#8220;unfair&#8221; rankings to certain companies. </p>
<p>The Internet is one of the great bastions of freedom and innovation in our civilization. Let us keep it that way by rejecting &#8220;net neutrality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Alex Epstein is a junior fellow at the Ayn Rand Institute (www.AynRand.org) in Irvine, CA. The Institute promotes Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand&#8211;author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead. Contact the writer at <a href="mailto:media@aynrand.org">media@aynrand.org</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ArugulaZ</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>ArugulaZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-887</guid>
		<description>Gee, thanks for the censorship.  I thought you guys were fighting AGAINST that...

JR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, thanks for the censorship.  I thought you guys were fighting AGAINST that&#8230;</p>
<p>JR</p>
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		<title>By: stopsoftwarecontrol</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>stopsoftwarecontrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-878</guid>
		<description>The ISPs already control the content we see, what we do, and were getting spyed on.

The ISPs already control the internet if the bill it passes or not because

They have the rights to block ports even if your not a hacker, not a spammer, or not vunerable to attacks. My ISP tried to blacklist me, and then close ports 110, and 25 even if I tried to stop spammers, and have a big password to my SMTP relay. SO then you have to use Yahoo, or big email providers but you cannot have your own legit secure email server (admin@yourdomain).

I thought I heard AT&#38;T is routing all data through the National Security Agency (NSA) to spy on what we do online.

You don't always get the speeds they say you get like if they say 5.0MBPS the internet connection may go slow sometimes.

Also the ISPs use the Big Extortioner Blacklists (SORBS, and maybe more) so if your email gets blocked you may have to pay $50.00 to SORBS.

Also if they wanted to they could block port 80 and keep people from having their own web server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ISPs already control the content we see, what we do, and were getting spyed on.</p>
<p>The ISPs already control the internet if the bill it passes or not because</p>
<p>They have the rights to block ports even if your not a hacker, not a spammer, or not vunerable to attacks. My ISP tried to blacklist me, and then close ports 110, and 25 even if I tried to stop spammers, and have a big password to my SMTP relay. SO then you have to use Yahoo, or big email providers but you cannot have your own legit secure email server (admin@yourdomain).</p>
<p>I thought I heard AT&amp;T is routing all data through the National Security Agency (NSA) to spy on what we do online.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t always get the speeds they say you get like if they say 5.0MBPS the internet connection may go slow sometimes.</p>
<p>Also the ISPs use the Big Extortioner Blacklists (SORBS, and maybe more) so if your email gets blocked you may have to pay $50.00 to SORBS.</p>
<p>Also if they wanted to they could block port 80 and keep people from having their own web server.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Technology CEO Council</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Technology CEO Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-842</guid>
		<description>[...] I began this short journey today at Save The Internet where I found myself curious about &#8220;For these corporations, killing Net Neutrality is just icing on the cake of a U.S broadband market that’s already in their grip. Clearly they don’t want more competition, but more control of Internet services that are already lagging behind the rest of the world’s.&#8221; Lagging behind in the previous sentence was the link. Of course I&#8217;m irritated that I want to believe that I live in the most prosperous, advanced, humanitarian country in the world but, unfortunately, that just isn&#8217;t so. That link led to a site where the deplorable performance of the USA on global broadband penetration is displayed graphically. Sad. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I began this short journey today at Save The Internet where I found myself curious about &#8220;For these corporations, killing Net Neutrality is just icing on the cake of a U.S broadband market that’s already in their grip. Clearly they don’t want more competition, but more control of Internet services that are already lagging behind the rest of the world’s.&#8221; Lagging behind in the previous sentence was the link. Of course I&#8217;m irritated that I want to believe that I live in the most prosperous, advanced, humanitarian country in the world but, unfortunately, that just isn&#8217;t so. That link led to a site where the deplorable performance of the USA on global broadband penetration is displayed graphically. Sad. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: johnw</title>
		<link>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>johnw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/07/12/hot-air-about-net-competition-a-cover-for-control/#comment-829</guid>
		<description>Absolutely true! Take al ook at the adverts for cellphones, cable TV, and broadband and you will see that the "competition" lies in offering "gimcracks and geegaw" (to quote a poem). For example, the cellphone companies offer more minutes, or new phones, or ringtones, or a change in hours charged--but never LOWER prices. The goal of all telecom companies is to get the consumer positioned as their cashcow--even at 29.99/month--and milk and bilk you till the, well, cows come home.

I do not think this issue --the complete lack of TRUE competition for broadband--should necessarily be conflated with the issue of Net Neutrality. I actually believe broadband competition underlies the issue, and of net neutrality, and that an increase of TRUE competition would as if by magic render Net Neutrality a nonissue. Net Neutrality is a given when there is TRUE broadband competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely true! Take al ook at the adverts for cellphones, cable TV, and broadband and you will see that the &#8220;competition&#8221; lies in offering &#8220;gimcracks and geegaw&#8221; (to quote a poem). For example, the cellphone companies offer more minutes, or new phones, or ringtones, or a change in hours charged&#8211;but never LOWER prices. The goal of all telecom companies is to get the consumer positioned as their cashcow&#8211;even at 29.99/month&#8211;and milk and bilk you till the, well, cows come home.</p>
<p>I do not think this issue &#8211;the complete lack of TRUE competition for broadband&#8211;should necessarily be conflated with the issue of Net Neutrality. I actually believe broadband competition underlies the issue, and of net neutrality, and that an increase of TRUE competition would as if by magic render Net Neutrality a nonissue. Net Neutrality is a given when there is TRUE broadband competition.</p>
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