Comments on: Another Web Pioneer Speaks Out for Net Neutrality http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/ Tracking the battle over Network Neutrality Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:04:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Common Sense Journal » Blog Archive » Net Neutrality: Save the Internet http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-116 Common Sense Journal » Blog Archive » Net Neutrality: Save the Internet Fri, 05 May 2006 15:26:07 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-116 [...] Besides hosting considerations, most web sites are able to be accessed at a fairly fast speed.  A person can create a blog or web site and that can be accessed by people from around the world.  That soon may change.  Cable and phone companies are proposing changes to the way the Internet works, where they would charge money for faster access to web sites.  So the big corporations’ web sites would load faster if they decided to pay this “protection money” to the telecom giants who currently have a virtual (and sometimes very real) monopoly on the telephone and cable lines that the Internet runs through.  But citizens, groups, some politicans and even the guy who invented the Web have come out in support of protecting smaller web sites and Net Neutrality.  PC World has a good article about the Net Neutrality debate:   Your favorite Web sites may be relegated to the Internet’s slow lane if the companies that run its backbone network have their way. Proposed services from telecommunications and cable companies would let ISPs and other Web businesses pay extra to receive preferential treatment for their data packets carrying everything from video to music to text over the Internet. Such packet prioritization would deliver a more responsive Web to those sites’ visitors–a valuable perk for high-bandwidth services like streaming video.  [...] […] Besides hosting considerations, most web sites are able to be accessed at a fairly fast speed.  A person can create a blog or web site and that can be accessed by people from around the world.  That soon may change.  Cable and phone companies are proposing changes to the way the Internet works, where they would charge money for faster access to web sites.  So the big corporations’ web sites would load faster if they decided to pay this “protection money” to the telecom giants who currently have a virtual (and sometimes very real) monopoly on the telephone and cable lines that the Internet runs through.  But citizens, groups, some politicans and even the guy who invented the Web have come out in support of protecting smaller web sites and Net Neutrality.  PC World has a good article about the Net Neutrality debate:   Your favorite Web sites may be relegated to the Internet’s slow lane if the companies that run its backbone network have their way. Proposed services from telecommunications and cable companies would let ISPs and other Web businesses pay extra to receive preferential treatment for their data packets carrying everything from video to music to text over the Internet. Such packet prioritization would deliver a more responsive Web to those sites’ visitors–a valuable perk for high-bandwidth services like streaming video.  […]

]]> By: PSoTD http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-115 PSoTD Fri, 05 May 2006 11:57:24 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-115 <strong>TBL Supports Net Neutrality...</strong> That's Tim Berners-Lee. Calls it "fundamental".... TBL Supports Net Neutrality…

That’s Tim Berners-Lee. Calls it “fundamental”….

]]> By: mondojohnson » On Net Neutrality http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-111 mondojohnson » On Net Neutrality Thu, 04 May 2006 12:19:02 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-111 [...] Mr. World-Wide-Web, Tim Berners-Lee, lays out the issue in crystal-clear language here.   [...] […] Mr. World-Wide-Web, Tim Berners-Lee, lays out the issue in crystal-clear language here.   […]

]]> By: tkarr http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-110 tkarr Thu, 04 May 2006 09:34:55 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-110 While we're determining where, exactly, Tim Berners-Lee fits into the pantheon of digital pioneers, can you take a moment to spread the word and take action against legislation that threatens to bring it all crumbling down. Best, Tim While we’re determining where, exactly, Tim Berners-Lee fits into the pantheon of digital pioneers, can you take a moment to spread the word and take action against legislation that threatens to bring it all crumbling down.

Best, Tim

]]> By: SpeakSpeak News http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-109 SpeakSpeak News Thu, 04 May 2006 06:11:02 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-109 [...] From ASve the Internet: [...] […] From ASve the Internet: […]

]]> By: RichardBennett http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-104 RichardBennett Thu, 04 May 2006 02:58:10 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-104 If you say so, pops. According to TBL, all packets on the Internet are treated equally by all the interior routers today, but he's afraid he won't be able to buy blue jeans from Land's End if the Evil Telcos implement the RFC 2309 recommendations. I think that's what he's saying, but like I said it's fuzzy. If you say so, pops.

According to TBL, all packets on the Internet are treated equally by all the interior routers today, but he’s afraid he won’t be able to buy blue jeans from Land’s End if the Evil Telcos implement the RFC 2309 recommendations.

I think that’s what he’s saying, but like I said it’s fuzzy.

]]> By: otherpop http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-103 otherpop Thu, 04 May 2006 01:37:24 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-103 The Web is not USENET, nor FTP. The *Net* includes USENET and FTP and the Web. The Web is HTTP and HTML, plus some additions. Therefore TBL, the inventor of HTML and HHTP, invented the Web. If you're going to accuse TBL about being unclear, it would help if you were actually clear on things yourself. The Web is not USENET, nor http://FTP. The *Net* includes USENET and FTP and the Web. The Web is HTTP and HTML, plus some additions. Therefore TBL, the inventor of HTML and HHTP, invented the Web.

If you’re going to accuse TBL about being unclear, it would help if you were actually clear on things yourself.

]]> By: RichardBennett http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-102 RichardBennett Thu, 04 May 2006 01:26:12 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-102 I see what you're trying to say, but it's not really true. TBL invented the original versions of HTTP and HTML, but the Web is larger than those two protocols, including the ftp repositories that were already there and arguably Usenet. So don't get too carried away. It turns out he's unclear about what Net Neutrality actually means, in any case. I see what you’re trying to say, but it’s not really true. TBL invented the original versions of HTTP and HTML, but the Web is larger than those two protocols, including the ftp repositories that were already there and arguably Usenet.

So don’t get too carried away. It turns out he’s unclear about what Net Neutrality actually means, in any case.

]]> By: renato http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-101 renato Thu, 04 May 2006 01:24:00 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-101 I was afraid this would devolve into pedanticism... There are very, very, very few inventions which can be credited to one single individual without valid competing claims or exaggeration based on negating the contributions of others (I'm looking at you, David Sarnoff. You too, Jobs and Gates). The web is one of those very rare inventions for which credit belongs solely to one individual - Tim Berners-Lee. And deity bless him for not trying to profit off of it. I wasn't going to point out that "one of the fathers" still wasn't exactly accurate, since the main correction was the important one. The internet and the web are NOT synonymous. Enough with the pedantic antics... back to lurking on the interwebs. I was afraid this would devolve into pedanticism…

There are very, very, very few inventions which can be credited to one single individual without valid competing claims or exaggeration based on negating the contributions of others (I’m looking at you, David Sarnoff. You too, Jobs and Gates).

The web is one of those very rare inventions for which credit belongs solely to one individual - Tim Berners-Lee. And deity bless him for not trying to profit off of it.

I wasn’t going to point out that “one of the fathers” still wasn’t exactly accurate, since the main correction was the important one. The internet and the web are NOT synonymous.

Enough with the pedantic antics… back to lurking on the interwebs.

]]> By: drewthaler http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-100 drewthaler Wed, 03 May 2006 21:54:24 +0000 http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/05/03/another-internet-founder-speaks-out-for-net-neutrality/#comment-100 Excuse me? With respect, that's not the way it works. Let's examine a parallel statement: "Levi Strauss invented blue jeans." By all accounts that's entirely true: http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bllevi.htm But the jeans you wear today are not the same as the ones Strauss specifically invented. Heck, chances are if you put on a pair of jeans today that they weren't even made by his company. But he is given credit for inventing blue jeans all the same. Tim Berners-Lee invented the WWW. Others took his idea and that initial implementation and helped refine it into what we use today. But when you are talking about invention, he invented the web. Period. Excuse me? With respect, that’s not the way it works.

Let’s examine a parallel statement: “Levi Strauss invented blue jeans.” By all accounts that’s entirely true:
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bllevi.htm

But the jeans you wear today are not the same as the ones Strauss specifically invented. Heck, chances are if you put on a pair of jeans today that they weren’t even made by his company. But he is given credit for inventing blue jeans all the same.

Tim Berners-Lee invented the http://WWW. Others took his idea and that initial implementation and helped refine it into what we use today. But when you are talking about invention, he invented the web. Period.

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